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MountainMan1953

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Beta-sitosterol and testosterone count
« on: January 23, 2013, 02:19:45 pm »
Does anyone know if beta-sitosterol will affect your testosterone count?  I just got the results of a blood test that showed my T count is 979, which is way high for me. My previous high after some T therapy was 502. I've had low counts before and have ED. Even though I've had T counts in the 300 to 500 range, my bioavailability numbers come out low and my libido is very low. I should also mention I've taken saw palmetto for years. So I went to see a new urologist and try again to get to the bottom of the ED and libido issues. I asked him to test my estadiol level also. I told the urologist I've tried Androgel with no perceived benefit. I've also tried Axiron, but it made me lethargic and sleepy in daytime. So he decided to try Testim, which I've been on for a month before this latest test. At the same time I decided to try taking beta-sitosterol. That's the only substantial change in my diet and supplements. So my total T count has come out to 979. My estradiol count also came out high at 54. Is it even possible the Testim (1%) was that effective or could the beta-sitosterol have affected my system? Regarding the new T count at 979, can it get TOO high?  Overall, I don't feel any different except I've had an occasional nighttime erection. Otherwise the libido still seems very low. I can't figure this out.

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Re: Beta-sitosterol and testosterone count
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2013, 02:50:47 pm »
A few comments:

--Sure, it's possible the Testim took you that high.  Let's say that's true for just a second.  Then why would you not feel better?  The answer probably lies in that estradiol number.  Many guys have reported little to benefit from beefy HRT with elevated estradiol.  High E2 essentially wipes out all the benes of high T.  From what I've seen the savvy docs get you into the 20-30 pg/ml range for estradiol.  And there have been a number of threads of late on just this subject.  See PRSArtist and anonymous' for example.

--Dr. Crisler warns that you must be careful to clean off your forearm (if thats where you apply it), because the needle can actually grab some T off the surface of your skin and lead to a false high read. 

--I really doubt beta-sitosterol can bump up testosterone that much.  Why?  Every steroid guy on planet earth would be downing that like 5 hour energy drinkks...

Let me know what you think...
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Re: Beta-sitosterol and testosterone count
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Re: Beta-sitosterol and testosterone count
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2013, 07:14:42 pm »
PeakT: Thanks for the info. I don't spread Testim on my forearm or inside of elbow where they draw blood. I have found the Testim is much more sticky than the Androgel and doesn't dry as quickly either. So I would avoid any joints or it just doesn't feel comfortable.

I just read the article on testosterone in Wikipedia and was surprised to read that Vitamin D can raise T levels. I recently started taking additional Vitamin D due to the panic over the flu season. I refuse to take flu shots. I just don't think they are a good idea as the flu vaccine has several toxic ingredients. So based on what various media doctors say about Vit D, I increased my daily intake to 5,000 Iu per day (in Winter only, otherwise I take 2-3,000 Iu's per day depending on sun exposure). So now I'm wondering how much the Vit D bumped up my T level.

I don't see the Doc again until March. In the meantime I'll try your suggestions for controlling or reducing the Estradiol level. 

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Re: Beta-sitosterol and testosterone count
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2013, 08:20:44 pm »
A few comments/questions:

--With the Testim you are super careful around females and children, right?

--Here is an article on the above:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Vitamin-D.aspx

--I think 5,000 is probably high.  I take 2,500 for example and my levels were 57.  Many guys take a ton of Vitamin D like that, but I don't think it's smart myself based on what I've read.  But do your own research and talk to your doc as I always say.  Vitamin D can, if you are deficient, give a bump of about 30% I believe, but see the above study.

--The #1 suggestion - and all the other pale in comparison - is to drop the pounds.  I don't know whether your read my thread or not, but I dropped about 8-10 pounds of visceral fat and it cut my estradiol by about 2/3rds.  That's right - two thirds.  Go easy on the alchohol as well - moderate drinking only.
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements. Yes, low T and E.D. are usually medical conditions.  There are potential risk with HRT:  http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_risks.aspx.
My Health History: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/My_Health_Story.aspx.
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Re: Beta-sitosterol and testosterone count
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 11:44:43 am »
Yes, of course I'm careful with the Testim. I'm 59 years old, generally covered (especially in Winter), and the children are grown and gone mostly. I'll put the Testim on in the morning and shower before going to bed.  I keep trying to lose belly fat, but it's a trait in my family. At 5'-10" and 170, I'm only slightly over weight, but I seem to carry the extra 10 pounds in my belly. When I do lose weight it's usually in the rest of the body. That belly fat is the most stubborn to lose! One of my resolutions this year is to eat more fruit and vegetables and hopefully lose a little belly fat in the process.

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Re: Beta-sitosterol and testosterone count
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 01:13:07 pm »
Yes, of course I'm careful with the Testim. I'm 59 years old, generally covered (especially in Winter), and the children are grown and gone mostly. I'll put the Testim on in the morning and shower before going to bed.  I keep trying to lose belly fat, but it's a trait in my family. At 5'-10" and 170, I'm only slightly over weight, but I seem to carry the extra 10 pounds in my belly. When I do lose weight it's usually in the rest of the body. That belly fat is the most stubborn to lose! One of my resolutions this year is to eat more fruit and vegetables and hopefully lose a little belly fat in the process.
Sorry if the comment about Testim was annoying, but I have had a guy or two on the forum that had no idea.  So I just mention things like that to play it safe.

When I gain weight, it's entirely visceral fat.  I'm a very thin guy and so it creates this weird effect like I've swallowed a bowling ball.  Anyway, if I can lose that last 10 pounds, anyone can do it! 

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Visceral_Fat.aspx

By the way, I highly encourage you to eat fruits and veges.  I can hardly think of anything more important to your health.  But I'm not sure I see how that is going to help you lose belly fat.  I mean it will help you feel better and fuller post-meal of course, but there is not substitute for the basics.

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Fruits_Vegetables.aspx
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements. Yes, low T and E.D. are usually medical conditions.  There are potential risk with HRT:  http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_risks.aspx.
My Health History: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/My_Health_Story.aspx.
And check out my new Peak Testosterone Program on the right side of my home page: http://www.peaktestosterone.com.

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Re: Beta-sitosterol and testosterone count
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 01:13:07 pm »